PBP Commentary

Coming up we have a welterweight MMA rules bout between Vergil Blanco Rocha (ranked 0 p4p, 0 weight class) and Keke Pummel (ranked 0 p4p, 0 weight class). Pummel is bouncing up and down as he enters the arena, backed by renegades. Fingers crossed for an exciting fight - I'm sure both fighters are looking for a nice under the table bonus!

Blanco Rocha
vs
Pummel

190 cm
28
182 lbs
10 - 2 - 0

180 cm
26
177 lbs
15 - 8 - 0

Good wrestling
World class MT
Cardio machine

Good wrestler
World class MT
Good gas tank

Perkele!

Ladies and gentlemen. This fight is 5 rounds, for the welterweight championship of the world!
Introducing the champion to my left, fighting out of the red corner.
With a record of 10 - 2 - 0, fighting out of Hilo, Vergil Blanco Rocha!
And introducing the challenger to my right, fighting out of the blue corner.
With a record of 15 - 8 - 0, fighting out of Helsinki, Keke Pummel!
The judges for this bout are Matti Vanhoillinen, Tarja Halkonen and Arvi Lind.

The bell rings for round one and we are underway!
Pummel checks the leg kick.
Blanco Rocha checks the leg kick nicely there.
Pummel cracks the inside of Blanco Rocha's front leg.
Pummel looks to throw the jab but Blanco Rocha is out of range.
Keke Pummel seems to be the more aggressive standup fighter in this bout.
Blanco Rocha takes a punch right to his stomach. That took the wind out of him momentarily.
A jab from Blanco Rocha misses.
Blanco Rocha slips a jab and a cross from Pummel.
Blanco Rocha misses with a few strikes there.
Blanco Rocha tries to close the distance and clinch up against the cage but Pummel paws at him with a jab and circles away.
Blanco Rocha tries to score with a low kick but Pummel moves his leg out of the way.
Pummel lands a nice shot to the body.
Blanco Rocha blocks a leg kick.
Blanco Rocha throws a leg kick but Pummel sees it coming and moves out of range.
A chopping leg kick lands by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha swings for the body but Pummel moves out of range.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Pummel throws a right hand that misses
and Blanco Rocha counters with a left and a right that stings Pummel.
Blanco Rocha lands a nice leg kick that just misses Pummel's sensitive parts.
Pummel misses with a kick to the body.
Pummel throws a shot from downtown. Blanco Rocha moves away and avoids it.
Blanco Rocha buckles his opponent's knee momentarily with a nice leg kick.
Pummel tries a head kick but it misses.
No joy there for Pummel, who threw a few shots but didn't land.
Blanco Rocha has his front leg slapped to the side - a nice low kick landing there from Pummel.
Pummel lands a straight punch to the body, keeping Blanco Rocha at a distance.
Pummel misses with a head kick.
Pummel takes a jab on the nose there. A little bit of blood seems to be coming out. Hopefully that won't affect his breathing.
Pummel takes a swing at Blanco Rocha's ribcage but misses.
Blanco Rocha attempts a low kick but it misses it's target.
Pummel lands a powerful looking uppercut that connected with his opponent's jaw.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
This is a great period of action - very entertaining stuff!
Like a baseball bat into the meat of his leg there - nice leg kick by Blanco Rocha.
Pummel misses with a body kick.
Blanco Rocha tries to clinch but Pummel moves out of range.
Blanco Rocha keeping a good distance there, avoiding the body shot.
Pummel throws a right and a left that Blanco Rocha avoids nicely.
Jab by Pummel.
Pummel lands a front kick.
Blanco Rocha moves out of range of the body kick from Pummel.
Good standup being displayed there by Pummel as he connects with a hook.
A low kick from Blanco Rocha is predictable there
letting Pummel counter with a right hand.
Blanco Rocha throws a leg kick which misses Pummel's front leg but catches the back leg as Pummel tries to avoid it.
Pummel connects with a good right hand that stumbles Blanco Rocha. Blanco Rocha circles away out of range and recomposes himself.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Pummel misses the shot to the body.
Pummel fakes a head punch and goes low to the body. Nicely done.
Pummel throws a series of punches but Blanco Rocha avoids them all with ease.
Blanco Rocha takes a kick to the body and keeps moving.
Pummel lands a jab to Blanco Rocha's midsection.
Pummel tries a switch kick but it misses it's target.
Blanco Rocha jabs Pummel to the body, keeping him at a distance.
Pummel tries a low kick but Blanco Rocha avoids it.
Blanco Rocha avoids the head kick by Pummel.
Pummel will need to tighten up his combinations if he doesn't want to gas himself out, swinging at thin air.
A telegraphed right hand from Pummel misses the target.
Pummel misses with a series of wild punches.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Pummel throws a combination but it was largely blocked by Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha moves out of range of the body kick.
Blanco Rocha scores with a head kick. Pummel tried to block it but didn't get his arm up in time.
Blanco Rocha wants to clinch.
Blanco Rocha tries to clinch but Pummel moves out of range.
Blanco Rocha throws a leg kick but Pummel moved away.
The crowd are going absolutely nuts as the round comes to an end - what a fantastic round of action!
Blanco Rocha misses with a hook
and Pummel finishes the little exchange by landing a big kick to the body.
This is a great period of action - very entertaining stuff!
A nice leg kick lands there from Pummel.
Pummel tries to score with a leg kick but it misses it's target.
Pummel throws a right hand that Blanco Rocha ducks under and follows up with a left that Blanco Rocha also avoids with ease.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

Keke Pummel dominated that round.
That's time! Blanco Rocha's corner gives him a slap on the ass as he gets ready to fight.

Pummel pulls out of a head kick attempt.
Blanco Rocha stooping low to avoid any incoming strikes and then lunges in with an uppercut come cross that lands flush.
Pummel connects with a body shot that sends Blanco Rocha's belly button to the back.
Pummel thows a body shot but no joy.
Pummel misses with a half-hearted attempt at a head kick.
Blanco Rocha moves out of range of the body kick from Pummel.
Blanco Rocha lands a straight punch to the body, keeping Pummel at a distance.
Pummel takes a step towards his opponent and connects with a left hand, before circling away.
Pummel ducks down and throws a hook to the body.
A slapping leg kick lands for Pummel.
Blanco Rocha catches Pummel with a nice straight right. He seems pissed - ooooh, it's on now! On like donkey kong!
Pummel throws a hook but Blanco Rocha blocks it.
Blanco Rocha misses with a hook.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha rushes forward with a series of wild hooks but Pummel moves out of range and avoids them all easily.
Pummel circles away from the clinch attempt.
Pummel checks a low kick from Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha is looking to slow Pummel down with leg kicks.
Blanco Rocha avoids the head kick by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha tries to clinch but Pummel moves out of range.
A low kick from Pummel is predictable there
and Blanco Rocha makes the exchange count by landing a cracking kick to the body. Pummel really felt that one!
Pummel feints with a shoulder and throws a nice leg kick to Blanco Rocha's calf.
Blanco Rocha uses some good footwork to avoid the body shot by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha moves forwards but Pummel connects with a nice, crisp jab.
Blanco Rocha looking to throw a kick but he's pulled out of it.
Pummel plants his feet and lands a nice head kick!
A head kick misses from Blanco Rocha.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha misses with a leg kick.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
Pummel misses with a kick to the body.
Pummel lands with a good body shot.
An inside leg kick from Pummel misses.
Pummel cracks the inside of Blanco Rocha's front leg.
Pummel lands a nice leg kick that just misses Blanco Rocha's sensitive parts.
Pummel takes one on the chin but seems OK.
Blanco Rocha swings for the body but Pummel moves out of range.
Pummel tests Blanco Rocha's chin there with a solid looking shot.
Pummel scoring well with a low kick there.
Blanco Rocha displays some good footwork, moving neatly out of range as Pummel throws out the jab.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Pummel scores with a leg kick.
Pummel throws a lazy uppercut
and Blanco Rocha counters with a nice leg kick.
Blanco Rocha checks a low kick from Pummel.
Keke Pummel is looking to throw some combinations by the looks of things.
Blanco Rocha moves out of range of the strikes.
Pummel misses with a right hand
and Pummel takes a counter punch right on the button for his troubles.
Pummel misses with a two punch combination.
Blanco Rocha throws a leg kick
and Pummel counters with a nice kick to the body.
Pummel moves into range and lands a nice leg kick.

Blanco Rocha closes the distance and clinches.
A short right hand to the side of the head by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha is using his height advantage well here, landing a good percentage of his punches.
Pummel gets through Blanco Rocha's defenses to land a nice punch to the side of the head.
Pummel avoids the elbow strike from Blanco Rocha, against the cage.
Pummel wants to push off and get back to the center of the mat but Blanco Rocha has him pressed against the cage.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Pummel lands with a right to the head.
Blanco Rocha can't find room to land a body shot as Pummel controls the action.
Blanco Rocha struggles to land a body shot inside as Pummel controls his hands.
Pummel tries to throw a body punch but Blanco Rocha avoids it by throwing Pummel back against the cage.
Pummel is working hard here but doesn't seem to be able to control effectively, up against the cage.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
Pummel working on landing some head shots here - that one got through nicely.
Pummel is looking to control Blanco Rocha's arms but Blanco Rocha gets an underhook and turns him. Now Pummel has his back to the cage.
Blanco Rocha putting his Muay Thai to good use. He has Pummel in a tight clinch and is doing some damage with knees to the body.
Blanco Rocha throws an elbow that misses.
Blanco Rocha lands a right uppercut that snaps the head of Pummel backwards.
Blanco Rocha doesn't land with the attempted body shot.
Pummel misses with a short punch on the inside.
The crowd are going absolutely nuts as the round comes to an end - what a fantastic round of action!
Blanco Rocha using the Thai plumb to throw knees but Pummel has his back arched nicely, preventing the strike.
Pummel goes for a body shot but it's blocked.
Blanco Rocha throws an elbow but it misses.
Pummel misses with a hook from the clinch.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

Keke Pummel showed his class in that round. I'd imagine he'll take it on all the scorecards.
The minute break is over - no more time for sponges and pep talks - back to the action!

Pummel throws a lazy uppercut
and Blanco Rocha counters with a nice body kick.
Pummel misses with a straight left.
Blanco Rocha tries to clinch up.
Pummel misses with a series of wild punches.
Keke Pummel seems to be getting the better of the standup.
Blanco Rocha tries to clinch but Pummel moves out of range.
Pummel misses the jab.
Nice defenses there by Blanco Rocha.
Pummel uses good footwork to get in and out and land a nice right hand before Blanco Rocha has time to react.
Blanco Rocha throws a quick inside leg kick.
Blanco Rocha fakes with the hands and throws a leg kick but Pummel is out of range.
Pummel feints a straight left to the body, then turns around with a flashy move and hits Blanco Rochas jaw with a dramatic spinning back fist!
Pummel scores with the left hand. Blanco Rocha knows he should have avoided that one.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha uses good footwork to avoid the strikes from Pummel.
Pummel scores with a nice one two combo and darts back out of range to avoid anything coming in the opposite direction.
Blanco Rocha checks a low kick. Bone on bone - not my idea of a good time.
Pummel swings and misses with a hook to the body.
Pummel misses with a jab and misses with a cross straight after too.
Blanco Rocha thows a left - swing and a miss!
Pummel takes a jab right on the kisser.
Pummel looks to land a body kick but Blanco Rocha moved away.
Pummel throws a body kick that sends a sickening thudding noise reverberating around the arena.
Blanco Rocha fakes a jab and scores with a low kick.
Pummel lands a two punch combo.
Pummel attempts a low kick but it misses it's target.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
A kick lands to the mid section there for Pummel.
We've seen a great period of action over the last minute or so - credit to both fighters for going all out!

Blanco Rocha closes the distance and clinches.
Nice elbow from Blanco Rocha.
Pummel lands with a short punch from the clinch.
With the fighters clinched against the cage, Blanco Rocha creates a bit of distance for himself and scores with a nice uppercut.
Pummel is trying to force a seperation but Blanco Rocha has the dominant position.
Pummel misses with a short punch on the inside.
Blanco Rocha misses the knee to the body. Nice hip positioning from Pummel.
Pummel just leaning against Blanco Rocha, taking a breather.
With the fighters up against the cage, Blanco Rocha throws an elbow but misses.
A short right hand to the side of the head by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha creates a bit of distance and throws an elbow that only just misses.
Pummel's leg has a nasty welt from taking a succession of leg kicks. That must be slowing him down.
Blanco Rocha working some nice short punches in the clinch.
Pummel is struggling to control the position.
Blanco Rocha creates a bit of space for himself and sneaks an elbow through Pummel's defenses.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Pummel misses with a hook from the clinch.
Blanco Rocha pushes off an throws an elbow but Pummel leans to the side and avoids it. We're back to clinching against the cage.
Pummel lands with a left to the head.
Pummel lands with a short punch from the clinch.
Pummel swings wildly with an uppercut but Blanco Rocha uses good head movement to avoid it.
Pummel blocks an elbow strike from Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha can't find room to land a body shot as Pummel controls the action.
Pummel has a couple of punches blocked by Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha trying to land knees to the body.
Pummel blocks a couple of punches on the inside.
An uppercut on the inside fails to land for Pummel.
A nice left hand lands by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha doesn't land with the attempted body shot.
Pummel works for underhooks and lands a body shot in the process.
Pummel blocks a knee to the body. He'll have a nicely bruised forearm in the morning.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha blocks a couple of punches on the inside.
Blanco Rocha blocking some punches.
Blanco Rocha will be looking to protect his midsection after taking some solid kicks to the body.
Pummel lands a right uppercut that snaps the head of Blanco Rocha backwards.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
Pummel doesn't land with the attempted body shot.
Pummel blocks the elbow strike.
Pummel slows down the pace here.
Pummel looking to slow down the pace here.
Pummel throws a blind hook that connects with the side of Blanco Rochas head.
Pummel can't find room to land a body shot as Blanco Rocha controls the action.
The crowd are going absolutely nuts as the round comes to an end - what a fantastic round of action!
Both guys are working to get underhooks.
Pummel lands with a light punch inside.
Pummel dodges an elbow strike from Blanco Rocha.
A right handed body shot lands from Blanco Rocha.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

Keke Pummel really dominated that round.
That's the end of the interval. I'm sure that seemed a lot quicker than a minute for our two fighters! Back to the action.

Pummel ducks down and throws a hook to the body.
Blanco Rocha checks a low kick from Pummel.
Blanco Rocha thows a left - swing and a miss!
Jab, jab by Pummel - just one landing.
Blanco Rocha lands with a hook. Pummel tried to avoid it but it clipped the top of his head.
Blanco Rocha keeping his hands up high there, blocking the jab from Pummel.
Pummel misses with a hook.
Pummel circles away from the clinch attempt.
Pummel misses with a wild body shot.
Pummel buckles his opponent's knee momentarily with a nice leg kick.
Pummel fails to land with a series of punches.
Blanco Rocha tries to score with a leg kick but it misses it's target.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Donk. Pummel catches Blanco Rocha right on the button with a cross.
Pummel closes the distance and takes a jab right on the nose as he does so.
Blanco Rocha checks a leg kick nicely.
Pummel connects with a high kick.
Blanco Rocha with a nice looking leg kick. You could hear that one land in a back row.
Pummel circles away from the clinch attempt.
Blanco Rocha tries a head kick but it misses.
A big right from Pummel misses.
Blanco Rocha keeping a good distance there, avoiding the body shot.
Blanco Rocha closes the distance and takes a jab right on the nose as he does so.
Blanco Rocha misses with an uppercut
and Pummel counters with a good right hand that lands right on the jaw.
A nice inside leg kick there by Blanco Rocha. That's going to slow Pummel down.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
Pummel misses with a body kick.
Pummel looking to throw a kick but he's pulled out of it.
Pummel misses with a head kick.
Pummel connects with a leg kick. Blanco Rocha looked like he was expecting something else and didn't defend it.
The crowd are loving this. Great action here.
Blanco Rocha bobs and weaves well there to avoid the strikes.
Donk. Blanco Rocha catches Pummel right on the button with a cross.
Pummel takes a big uppercut there. He seems a bit wobbly but no, he's OK.
Pummel tried to score with a low kick but Blanco Rocha checks it.

Blanco Rocha fakes with an overhand right and moves in to clinch with Pummel, pushing him back against the cage.
Pummel pressing his opponent against the cage.
Blanco Rocha misses with an elbow over the top.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha throws an elbow but it's blocked.
Pummel lands an uppercut.
A nice left hand lands by Blanco Rocha.
Pummel dictating the pace here, as the fighters clinch against the cage.
Nice elbow from Blanco Rocha.

It looks like Keke Pummel has been cut.
Nice body punch from Pummel.
Pummel lands with a short punch from the clinch.
Pummel blocks a knee to the body. He'll have a nicely bruised forearm in the morning.
Keke Pummel seems to be working more effectively in the clinch in the fight so far.
Pummel tries to stall but Blanco Rocha uses the opportunity to gain a better position.
Blanco Rocha lands a glancing elbow in the clinch.
With the fighters up against the cage, Blanco Rocha throws an elbow but misses.
Pummel blocks an elbow strike from Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha throws an elbow but it's blocked.
Blanco Rocha tries to land a knee to the head but misses.
Still in the clinch, Pummel scores with a nice short uppercut.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
The fans in attendance giving it up for the two fighters, who have really let it all hang out in the last minute or so!
Blanco Rocha trying to land knees to the body.
Blanco Rocha is looking to score with knees to the body. Maybe he'll change it up and go body then head. Pummel is defending well for now.
Pummel lands a hook that snaps the head of Blanco Rocha backwards.

Pummel breaks from the clinch.
Pummel takes a swing at Blanco Rocha's ribcage but misses.
Blanco Rocha throws a nice outside leg kick.
Pummel misses with a kick to the body.
A chopping leg kick lands by Pummel.
Blanco Rocha tries to close the distance and clinch up against the cage but Pummel paws at him with a jab and circles away.
Blanco Rocha doesn't react quick enough there as he takes a shot to the body.
As the round comes to an end the crowd are showing their appreciation for a great round of action.
Blanco Rocha moves in looking to clinch but Pummel pushes him off.
Blanco Rocha pivots, looking for a leg kick but Pummel is out of range and Blanco Rocha settles back down.
Pummel goes for a spinning back kick but it misses.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

Keke Pummel dominated that fourth round.
The cut man is working on Keke Pummel's cut.
OK. That's time! The bell goes and we're back to the action. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the final round!

A clash of legs there as Pummel blocks the low kick.
Blanco Rocha misses with a leg kick.
Pummel does a little shimmy and throws a leg kick. The leg kick missed by a considerable margin though, making him look a little bit silly for doing the shimmy.
Blanco Rocha lands with a head kick! That's gotta hurt.
Pummel misses with a body shot.
Pummel takes a thudding leg kick, right into the meat of the thigh.
Blanco Rocha cracks Pummel with a right hand to the side of the head.
Blanco Rocha walks into a left hand.
Pummel tries to land a body kick
and Blanco Rocha makes him pay by landing a thudding low kick.
Pummel is the aggressor but that punch slipped nicely by Blanco Rocha.
Pummel shapes like he's going to throw a leg kick but settles back down.
A chopping leg kick lands by Pummel.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Pummel scores with a leg kick.
Pummel throws a quick head kick that skims the top of Blanco Rocha's head.

Blanco Rocha is rocked!
Blanco Rocha bobs and weaves well there to avoid the strikes.
Oh Blanco Rocha is still all over the place! His legs are completely gone! Will he be able to recover?!!
Pummel pushing out the jab but it's not landing.
Pummel walks forward and throws out a flicking leg kick. Blanco Rocha checks it nicely though, as he moves to the side.
Pummel throws a combination but it was largely blocked by Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha seems to have got his legs back now.
Pummel slips a straight right by Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha blocks a leg kick.
Blanco Rocha tries to clinch up.
Blanco Rocha throws a leg kick but Pummel checks it.
Pummel throws a nice looking combination but Blanco Rocha bobs and weaves to avoid any damage.
Pummel throws a good cross that connects.
Vergil Blanco Rocha has stepped it up - he knows he needs a finish here!

That's two minutes gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha looks for the body kick but Pummel saw that one coming.
Pummel does a little shimmy and throws a leg kick. The leg kick missed by a considerable margin though, making him look a little bit silly for doing the shimmy.
Blanco Rocha fails with an attempt to clinch.
Pummel misses with a looping left.
Pummel takes a swing at Blanco Rocha's ribcage but misses.
Blanco Rocha lands with a kick to the ribs.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
A jab from Blanco Rocha misses.
Blanco Rocha slips a jab and a cross from Pummel.
Blanco Rocha misses with a double jab.
Pummel thumps Blanco Rocha with a low kick.
Pummel circles away from the clinch attempt.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Blanco Rocha throws a leg kick but Pummel checks it.
Pummel throws a wild combination but nothing lands.
Blanco Rocha looks to throw a body kick
and Pummel counters with a solid body kick.
Good standup being displayed there by Pummel as he connects with a hook.
Blanco Rocha takes a nasty kick to the mid section... That should keep him thinking. Does he try and block and risk a head kick landing?
Both of our modern day gladiators look out of it here - an gruelling 5 rounds of action taking it's toll on them, no doubt.
Blanco Rocha misses with a series of wild punches.
Pummel throws a feint and then finishes with a kick to the body.
Blanco Rocha takes a nasty kick to the mid section... That should keep him thinking. Does he try and block and risk a head kick landing?
No joy there for Pummel, who threw a few shots but didn't land.
Pummel tries to check the leg kick but that clearly hurt him.
Pummel misses with a half-hearted attempt at a head kick.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Pummel lands a beauty of a right hand that gets the crowd cheering.
Pummel tries to score with a leg kick but it misses it's target.

Blanco Rocha rushes Pummel and pushes him back against the cage in a clinch.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
Pummel goes for a body shot but it's blocked.
Pummel tries a shoulder strike but it doesn't do any damage.
A quick uppercut on the inside from Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha has a couple of punches blocked by Pummel.
Pummel tries to circle away but Blanco Rocha has him pinned against the cage.
Pummel doesn't land with the attempted body shot.
Blanco Rocha unloads a knee to the mid-section.
Blanco Rocha lands a knee to the head.
As the round comes to an end the crowd are showing their appreciation for a great round of action.
A knee to the head by Blanco Rocha.
Blanco Rocha with the Thai clinch. He's looking to land a big knee but he's not managed it this time.
Blanco Rocha misses with a knee strike.
Keke Pummel is fighting for a decision - hopefully he's judged it right and he's actually winning the fight.
Blanco Rocha throws an elbow that misses.

And that's the end of the fight!
I would just about give that final round to Keke Pummel.
Well Pummel has outworked and out performed his opponent in all aspects of the game today. He was simply too good and the decision should be no more than a formality. Over to the ring announcer for the scorecards.

Ladies and gentlemen, after 5 rounds of action, we go to the scorecards for a decision.
Judge Matti Vanhoillinen scores the fight 45:50
Judge Tarja Halkonen scores the fight 45:50
Judge Arvi Lind scores the fight 45:50

In favor of your winner, by unanimous decision... Keke Pummel! Keke Pummel retains his welterweight title!
During a confident post fight interview, Keke Pummel thanked all his fans. He seemed very genuine when describing how motivated his fans keep him.