PBP Commentary

Coming up we have a welterweight MMA rules bout between Festivius Fisher (ranked 0 p4p, 0 weight class) and Bj Becks (ranked 0 p4p, 0 weight class). The crowd giving both fighters a great reception on their way into the arena. That's good to see.

Fisher
vs
Becks

174 cm
26
169 lbs
0 - 0 - 0

175 cm
34
163 lbs
18 - 20 - 0

Good wrestling
World class MT
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TWGC Champion
Excellent MT
Good gas tank

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Ladies and gentlemen. This fight is 5 rounds, in the welterweight division.
Introducing the fighter to my left, fighting out of the red corner.
With a record of 0 - 0 - 0, fighting out of Los Angeles, Festivius Fisher!
And introducing the fighter to my right, fighting out of the blue corner.
With a record of 18 - 20 - 0, fighting out of Los Angeles, Bj Becks!
The judges for this bout are Timothy Bukovac, Frank Antenori and Jack Bonds.

The bell rings for round one and we are underway!
Becks throws an uppercut from half a mile away. Fisher sees it coming and avoids it easily.
Fisher checks a low kick. Bone on bone - not my idea of a good time.
A really sloppy takedown attempt there from Becks.
Fisher looks to clinch
and Becks counters with a stiff right hand.
Becks throws a front kick aimed at Fisher's knee but Fisher avoids it well.
Fisher tries to close the distance and clinch but Becks swats him to one side with an open hand palm strike and circles away.
Becks scores with a punch to the gut of his opponent.

Fisher fakes with an overhand right and moves in to clinch with Becks, pushing him back against the cage.
Fisher is working for a takedown up against the cage. He can't get it on this occasion though.

Fisher is working on a single leg takedown against the cage. Becks can't fight it off and eventually Fisher manages to take the fight to the floor. Becks looks annoyed but at least he's managed to land in guard.
Becks wants to sweep here but Fisher controlling him for the moment.
Fisher has to be careful here, sitting in the guard of a superior BJJ player.
Fisher stands up and looks to throw the legs aside to pass to side control. Becks swivels though and keeps the full guard.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
Fisher not doing a lot at the moment. He'll have to show some more aggression or the fight will get stood up.
Becks is trying to control the position from the bottom.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Becks being controlled here, momentarily.
The fighters are pressed up against the cage, both looking to find a bit of space to work.

Neither fighter is doing enough for the referee's liking and he's decided to stand them back up.
Fisher tries to clinch

and Becks counters with a shoot takedown. Fisher fights it but they end up in guard.
Becks looking to control the position here, rather than advance.
Fisher working a defensive guard here.
Becks makes a bit of distance and scores with some ground and pound, still in guard.
Fisher is trying to keep Becks in close.
Fisher is pulling down on Becks's head. It's preventing any offense from Becks, at least for the moment.
Fisher keeping moving, preventing Becks from controlling successfully.

That's two minutes gone in the round.

The referee has ruled that neither fighter is active enough on the ground and has stood them back up.
Fisher tries to clinch up.
The crowd cheering loudly, showing their appreciation for the quality fight we're seeing here.
Becks is looking to land body kicks.

Fisher closes the distance and clinches.
Fisher is looking for a takedown.
Becks tries to throw a body punch but Fisher avoids it by throwing Becks back against the cage.
Becks trying to control the position but instead, Fisher has worked for underhooks and has pushed Becks into the cage.
Fisher wants a takedown but no success here.
That's three failed takedown attempts in the round for Festivius Fisher. That's going to take a lot out of him.
Fisher changes levels and goes for a takedown here. Becks fights it off and pushes away nicely.
Becks throws a head kick but Fisher moves out of range.
Fisher tries to clinch but is not successful on this occasion.
Fisher slips a jab from Becks.
Fisher wants to clinch.
Fisher is pinned up against the cage taking some big shots here. The referee is looking closely deciding whether he should stop the fight.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Becks has a nice red mark on his side after a thudding body kick by Fisher.
Becks throws a lazy head kick

and Fisher counters by moving into the clinch. Good anticipation by Fisher.
Fisher is trying to work for a single leg takedown but Becks pulls him back up using the underhooks.
Becks is clearly stalling here... Pick up the pace son.
Fisher has Becks pressed up against the cage and is working for takedown. Becks manages to improve position though and keeps the fight standing.
Good anti-grappling being displayed by Fisher as Becks tries to tie him up.

Fisher has clasped his hands together around Becks's back... aaand, he's got a takedown into side control. Nicely done.
Becks is looking for a sweep.
Becks is letting Fisher control him for a moment.
The fighters are starting to get a bit slippery now, which will make submissions a bit more difficult.
Fisher trying to control the action but Becks is working from the bottom.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
A lull in the action here.
Fantastic stuff here - a very entertaining period of action, which has drawn cheers from the crowd.
The referee is asking the fighters to pick up the pace.
Becks is looking to regain half guard here but Fisher keeps moving and retains side control.
A lull in the action here as Fisher stalls from top position.

The ref stands the fighters back up. Festivius Fisher wasn't doing enough on the ground.
Fisher closes the distance but Becks moves to the side
and Becks counters with a nice leg kick.
The crowd are going absolutely nuts as the round comes to an end - what a fantastic round of action!

Fisher moves into range and clinches up with Becks.
Fisher drops to a knee looking for a takedown but Becks gets the underhooks and prevents it.
Fisher drops down for a takedown but doesn't get it.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

That was a close round but I would say that Festivius Fisher will probably get the nod.
The referee calls time. The cornermen exit stage left and we're back to business.

The fight stays on the outside here - Fisher looks like he's thinking about clinching though.
Becks jabs at Fisher's body.
Becks looks to throw the jab but Fisher is out of range.
Becks lands an overhand left. A wild punch that just about connected.
Fisher tries to close the distance and clinch up against the cage but Becks paws at him with a jab and circles away.
Fisher tries to clinch up but Becks circles away and keeps his distance.

Fisher scores with a nice takedown into half guard. Let's see what he's got on the ground.
Festivius Fisher overall seems to be getting the better of the ground position in the fight so far.
Becks is doing well to avoid being mounted. He's controlling the position at the moment.
Becks trying to hold on to Fisher's head to control him but Fisher postures up.
Fisher controlling the action here.
If this pace continues, the referee will definitely step in and force a standup.
Becks is concentrating on defense, preventing Fisher from advancing position.

That's one minute gone in the round.

The ref stands the fighters back up, due to lack of action by Bj Becks.

Fisher forces Becks back against the cage and clinches.
Becks is trying to work out of this bad position, with his back against the cage.
Becks is defending well against a takedown attempt.
Fisher tries to score a body lock takedown but Becks shows good agility there to stay on his feet.
The pace really dropping off here, momentarily.
Becks gets underhooks to prevent Fisher's takedown attempt.
That's three failed takedown attempts in the round for Festivius Fisher. That's going to take a lot out of him.
Fisher avoiding damage as Becks throws knees to the body.
Becks gets underhooks to prevent Fisher's takedown attempt.

Fisher has double underhooks and is working for a body lock takedown. He's got it. The fighters land in half guard but Becks regains guard immediately.
Fisher stays in close to Becks's body and controls the position.
Fisher trying to control the position from guard on top but Becks is wriggling around, looking for whatever he can.
Fisher controls the pace of the fight for a moment.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
Fisher trying to control the position from guard on top but Becks is wriggling around, looking for whatever he can.

We're going to have a standup here because Festivius Fisher wasn't active enough for the referee's liking.
Fisher closes the distance looking to clinch

and Becks counters with a nice single leg takedown and he's in Fisher's guard now.
The fans in attendance giving it up for the two fighters, who have really let it all hang out in the last minute or so!
Fisher wants to control here, rather than go for any submissions from the bottom. At least for now.
Becks throwing shots from guard but he's hitting more mat than opponent.

Becks thinks about going for a leg but decides against it, in order to maintain the position.
Becks throwing strikes from guard but Fisher blocks nicely.
Becks postures up and scores with a shot to the body and a follow up elbow to the head.
Fisher wants to sweep but no luck.
Becks missing there with some ground and pound from the guard.
Becks postures up.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Fisher is really struggling to control Becks but he's trying to hold on to the position.
The ref warns both fighters not to hold the cage as they work up against the meshing.
The referee looks like he's ready to step in and stand the fighters back up.
Becks wants to control from the top but Fisher keeps moving.

Festivius Fisher has forced the referee to step in and bring the fight back to the feet.
Becks blocks a head kick by Fisher.
Nice uppercut there from Becks.
Fisher is looking to take this fight into the clinch.
Becks blocks the body kick.
Fisher tries to close the distance and clinch but Becks swats him to one side with an open hand palm strike and circles away.
Becks keeps the fight on the outside.
Becks throws a head kick that misses and slips in the process. He scrambles back to his feet and the fighters circle.
Becks jabbing away but nothing is landing.
Fisher throws a head kick that misses and slips in the process. He scrambles back to his feet and the fighters circle.
Becks ducks down and throws a hook to the body.
A shot to the liver by Fisher. Beautiful body shot.
A clash of legs there as Fisher blocks the low kick.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Becks circles away from the clinch attempt
and Becks counters with a slapping leg kick.
Festivius Fisher is looking to throw some combinations by the looks of things.
Becks connects with a leg kick. Fisher looked like he was expecting something else and didn't defend it.
Fisher wants to clinch but Becks slips to the side
and Becks counters with a stiff right hand.
This has been an exciting period of action!
Becks connects with a leg kick. Fisher looked like he was expecting something else and didn't defend it.
Becks fakes and then throws a beautiful body shot. Fisher looks a bit winded and takes a step backwards to take a breath.
The fight stays on the outside here - Fisher looks like he's thinking about clinching though.
Becks misses the shot to the body.
Fisher takes a shot right to the liver - Bas would have been proud of that punch.
Becks keeps the fight on the outside.
Fisher looks to clinch
and Becks counters with a good low kick that Fisher was not able to check.
The crowd are going absolutely nuts as the round comes to an end - what a fantastic round of action!
Fisher swings away but doesn't land with a series of punches.
Fisher takes a punch right to his stomach. That took the wind out of him momentarily.
The fight stays on the outside here - Fisher looks like he's thinking about clinching though.

Fisher gets a clinch.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

A close second round but Bj Becks will probably get the nod - 10:9.
The minute break is over - no more time for sponges and pep talks - back to the action!

Fisher pulls out of a head kick attempt.
Fisher misses with a head kick.
Becks throws out a leg kick but Fisher moves out of range and Becks only half commits.
Becks darts in looking for a takedown but Fisher gets double underhooks and turns Becks into the cage.
Becks gets underhooks to prevent Fisher's takedown attempt.

Becks breaks from the clinch.
Fisher swings for the body but Becks moves out of range.

Fisher clinches up with Becks and pushes him back against the cage.
Becks is defending well against a takedown attempt.
Fisher is working for takedown but Becks is calmly controlling the position for now.
That's three failed takedown attempts in the round for Festivius Fisher. That's going to take a lot out of him.
Fisher wants to take the fight to the mat but Becks manages to get underhooks and keep the fight in the clinch.
Fisher looking for a takedown.
Becks throws a nice elbow but it doesn't land.
Fisher wants a takedown.
Fisher takes a shot to the head.
Becks taking a breather.
The pace really dropping off here, momentarily.

Becks gets a nice trip takedown into half guard.
Both fighters are breathing heavily.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Becks working some ground and pound from close in. He's looking to maintain this position and strike for a while by the looks of things... although he'll probably advance to full mount in a minute now I've said that.
Fisher is trying is best to control the position here.

Becks wants to work for an arm triangle but Fisher is really keeping half guard well and defending the submission attempt.
Fisher gets back to full guard.
Fisher trying to keep a closed guard but Becks is proving a slippery customer.
My spies in Full Affliction Fight Team -All Elite Coaching- inform me that Becks has been getting involved in the gym's BJJ sparring sessions. Let's see whether that pays dividends!
Becks trying to control the position from guard on top but Fisher is wriggling around, looking for whatever he can.
Becks throwing elbows and punches but not connecting, as Fisher works some decent striking defense from the bottom.
Fisher keeping moving, preventing Becks from controlling successfully.
Fisher not looking particularly offensive just at the moment.

That's two minutes gone in the round.

The ref stands the fighters back up. Bj Becks was stalling too much, according to the referee.
Some wild striking there from Becks.
Becks misses with a half-hearted attempt at a head kick.
Becks pushing out the jab but it's not landing.
No luck with that takedown attempt from Becks.
Becks lands a pitter patter jab to the forehead of his opponent.
Fisher throws a push kick but Becks slaps the foot to one side.
Fisher tries to clinch but Becks moves out of range.
This is a great period of action - very entertaining stuff!

Fisher drives through and clinches with Becks against the cage.
Fisher is working on a leg, looking for a takedown but Becks is defending well.

Fisher wants the takedown. Becks is fighting it off but Fisher persists and manages to bring the fight to the ground, ending up in Becks's guard against the cage.
Fisher trying to control but Becks is working from the bottom.
Becks is working from a closed guard but he's struggling to control his opponent.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Fisher stopping the sweep attempt from Becks.
Fisher prevents Becks from getting back to his feet.
Fisher looking to pass the guard.

Fisher postures up as if he's going to throw some strikes but drops back for an ankle! Becks is in big trouble! He looks ready to tap! But no, he's escaped and dives on top of Fisher, into his guard.
Becks engaging in some classic timewasting tactics.
Fisher utilising some decent striking defenses from the guard, preventing the ground and pound.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Fisher has his hands on Becks's head, controlling the position.

Well, the referee has seen enough. Neither fighter is active enough on the ground so he's stood them back up.
Becks slips a jab and a cross from Fisher.
Fisher doesn't manage to clinch there - Becks circles away.
Becks looks to land a right hand but Fisher moved out of range.
Fisher is looking to take this fight into the clinch.
Festivius Fisher seems to be the more aggressive standup fighter in this bout.
Fisher avoids a punch combination nicely.
Fisher tries to close the distance and clinch up but Becks swats him away and circles back towards the center.
Fisher avoids a low kick by using good footwork.
Fisher tries to land with a swinging hook to the body but Becks was well out of range. Poor timing from Fisher.
As the round comes to an end the crowd are showing their appreciation for a great round of action.

Becks shoots in and gets a takedown into Fisher's guard.
We've seen a great period of action over the last minute or so - credit to both fighters for going all out!
Becks trying to control the position from guard on top but Fisher is wriggling around, looking for whatever he can.
Becks stopping the sweep attempt from Fisher.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

A close third round but Bj Becks just about did enough to take it.
OK. That's time! The bell goes and we're back to the action.

Becks thows a body shot but no joy.
Becks takes a swing at Fisher's ribcage but misses.
Good leg kick by Becks there. It's the ones that make that thud noise that hurt and that was an almighty thud.
Becks tries a low kick but Fisher avoids it.
Fisher wants to clinch up but Becks keeps it at a distance.

Fisher forces Becks back against the cage and clinches.
Becks goes for a takedown in the clinch but Fisher prevents it.
Fisher drops down for a takedown but doesn't get it.
Festivius Fisher has scored more points in the clinch so far.
Fisher has hold of a leg and is looking for a trip takedown. Becks avoids it nicely though and we remain in the clinch.
A short body shot lands from Becks as the two fighters clinch.
Fisher takes a knee to the side of the body.
Becks tries a knee to the head but he's missed.
Becks lands an elbow inside.

It looks like Festivius Fisher has been cut.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Becks lands a knee to the head.
Becks prevents a takedown attempt there.
That's three failed takedown attempts in the round for Festivius Fisher. That's going to take a lot out of him.
Fisher blocks a body shot from Becks.
Becks throws a knee to the head but misses.
Fisher tries for a takedown. No joy.
An uppercut to the body lands inside from Becks.
It's got to the stage where if one of these guys blows hard enough, the other might fall over.
A battle for position here, against the cage.
Becks slowing the pace effectively.
Becks is trying to stall.
Fisher looking for a takedown.
Becks is trying to slow down the pace of the fight but Fisher is keeping busy.
Fisher has dropped down and is looking to force the takedown but it's defended by Becks after a bit of a struggle.
Becks tries to land a knee to the head but Fisher blocks with his arms.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
Both fighters working to control the clinch.
Fisher is working for a takedown up against the cage. He can't get it on this occasion though.
Becks is pressed up against the cage. Fisher has hold of a leg and is looking to drag Becks down to the mat. Becks avoids the attempt though and has circled away. We're back to striking at a distance.
Becks lands a jab. Then a cross. Then finally a nice hook to the body. Good work there by Becks.
Fisher looks to land a left hand but Becks moved out of range nicely.
Bj Becks seems to be getting the better of the standup.
A telegraphed takedown attempt from Becks is defended easily by Fisher.
Becks avoids the head kick by Fisher.
The fans in attendance giving it up for the two fighters, who have really let it all hang out in the last minute or so!
Fisher takes a really solid shot there but just smiles back and shrugs his shoulders.
Fisher takes one to the chin there.
Becks throws a leg kick but Fisher moved away.
Oooooooooooh, not good. A low kick from Becks lands where it shouldn't have, right in the... well, you know what he did? He kicked him in the penis. He's injured, injured bad. The referee sends both fighters to their corners and Fisher has 5 minutes to recover. He's OK now though... a thumbs up from Fisher and we're back underway with a touch of gloves.
Becks throws a leg kick but he was too far away and it doesn't land.
Becks misses with a head kick.
Fisher fails in his attempt to clinch.
Fisher tries to clinch there but Becks circles away.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Fisher rushes forward with a series of wild hooks but Becks moves out of range and avoids them all easily.
Becks takes a punch to the jaw and another one to the bread basket.
Becks throws a chopping leg kick but Fisher manages to avoid taking any serious damage.
Fisher's corner calls for a 1, 2 combination and Fisher duly obliges.
Fisher keeping a good distance there, avoiding the body shot.
Becks throws a head kick that connects with a bit of head and a bit of hand.
The fight stays on the outside here - Fisher looks like he's thinking about clinching though.
Fisher tries to clinch but Becks moves out of range.

Fisher gets in close and instigates a clinch.

Fisher is trying to trip Becks. He has hold of a leg but Becks is hopping around, keeping his balance for the moment. Fisher persists though and gets the takedown into guard.
Fisher looking to pass the guard.
Wooooo! Give it up for these two warriors! They are putting on a show!
Becks manages to sweep nicely, so he's now on top. Fisher manages to get himself to full guard.
Becks throws a big elbow that misses.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Fisher looking for a sweep. Not yet Fisher, not yet.
Fisher keeping moving, preventing Becks from controlling successfully.
Fisher trying to control the position.
Fisher keeping moving, preventing Becks from controlling successfully.
The referee claps his hands together and tells the fighters to work.

The ref calls for a clean break and stands the fighters back up. Bj Becks wasn't active enough on the ground.
Becks swings and misses with a hook to the body.
Becks attempts a leg kick but it's missed by a good margin.
Becks ducks down and throws a hook to the body but Fisher moves away.
As the round comes to an end the crowd are showing their appreciation for a great round of action.
Becks circles away from the clinch attempt.
Fisher on the wrong end of an overhand right that came out of nowhere.
Fisher with a nice looking leg kick. You could hear that one land in a back row.
Nice body kick from Fisher.
Becks closes this distance looking for a takedown but Fisher circles away.
And that’s the end of the round – the fighters go back to their corners.

Bj Becks dominated that fourth round.
The cut man is working on Festivius Fisher's cut.
The minute break is over - no more time for sponges and pep talks - back to the action! This is the final round!

A slapping leg kick lands for Fisher.
Becks throws a front kick aimed at Fisher's knee but Fisher avoids it well.
Fisher wants to clinch

and Becks counters with a nice double leg into half guard.
Becks wants to free his trapped foot but Fisher is holding on for dear life with his legs.
Fisher is refusing to be controlled, as Becks sits in half guard.
Fisher is doing well to control the position and prevent Becks from advancing to side control.
Becks thows a huge punch but Fisher dodges it nicely.
Becks trying to pass the guard but Fisher defending well.
Becks lands with a punch from half guard.
Fisher has no desire to be mounted, so is trying to control. Becks is working away from the top position though.
Fantastic stuff here - a very entertaining period of action, which has drawn cheers from the crowd.
Fisher is pressing down on Becks's left leg trying to get back to full guard. He's managed it.

That's one minute gone in the round.
Becks being controlled here momentarily.
Becks trying to control but Fisher is working from the bottom.
Fisher pulls Becks in close to prevent any damage.

It looks like we're going to have a standup here. Neither fighter is doing enough on the ground.
Becks will need to tighten up his combinations if he doesn't want to gas himself out, swinging at thin air.
Fisher with poor footwork there. He got himself in a bit of a tangle, enabling Becks to score with a decent uppercut.
Becks misses the shot to the body.
Fisher fails with an attempt to clinch.
Fisher is looking to clinch.

Fisher moves into the clinch successfully.
Becks lands an elbow inside.

That's two minutes gone in the round.
Fisher has Becks pressed up against the cage and is working for takedown. Becks manages to improve position though and keeps the fight standing.
Becks taking a breather.
Becks tries to throw a body punch but Fisher avoids it by throwing Becks back against the cage.
Becks wants to stall.
Fisher has a body lock and is looking for a takedown. Becks is bouncing around trying to prevent the takedown and somehow he has indeed managed to stay on his feet.
Fisher wants a takedown.
That's three failed takedown attempts in the round for Festivius Fisher. That's going to take a lot out of him.
Fisher wants a takedown.
Both of our modern day gladiators look out of it here - a gruelling 5 rounds of action taking it's toll on them, no doubt.
Both fighters working to control the clinch.
Becks stalls.
Becks is trying to slow down the pace in the clinch, to catch his breath.
Fantastic stuff here - a very entertaining period of action, which has drawn cheers from the crowd.

Fisher wants the takedown. Becks is fighting it off but Fisher persists and manages to bring the fight to the ground, ending up in Becks's guard against the cage.
Fisher's corner is telling him to maintain position.

That's three minutes gone in the round.
Fisher trying to control but Becks is working from the bottom.
Becks trying to control the position.
Becks wants to sweep but no luck.
Becks controls Fisher momentarily but Fisher frees himself.

The ref calls for a clean break and stands the fighters back up. Bj Becks wasn't active enough on the ground.
Becks works his jab well there, keeping his opponent at a distance.
Fisher tries to clinch up against the cage, rushing in to close the distance. Becks manages to break the clinch and circles back to the middle of the mat.
Fisher misses with a head kick.
Fisher throws a head kick that misses and slips in the process. He scrambles back to his feet and the fighters circle.
Becks lands with a nice body punch.
Becks throws a hook to the side of Fisher's head but Fisher sees it coming and ducks under it beautifully.
Jab by Becks.
Fisher fails in his attempt to clinch.

That's four minutes gone in the round.
Fisher is looking to take this fight into the clinch.
Fisher tries to clinch but is not successful on this occasion.

Fisher forces Becks back against the cage and clinches.
Fisher drops down looking for an ankle pick but Becks pulls his leg out and moves away.
Fisher fails in his attempt to clinch.
Fisher tries to clinch up
and Becks counters with a nice low kick that buckles Fisher's knee momentarily.
The fans in attendance giving it up for the two fighters, who have really let it all hang out in the last minute or so!
Becks throws out a token jab with nothing on it.
Fisher lands a high kick!
As the round comes to an end the crowd are showing their appreciation for a great round of action.
Fisher tries to clinch but Becks is having none of it.
Fisher uses good footwork to avoid the strikes from Becks.
A decent looking cross lands there for Becks.
Fisher tries to close the distance and clinch up against the cage but Becks paws at him with a jab and circles away.

And that's the end of the fight!
I would just about give that final round to Bj Becks.
Well Becks has outworked and out performed his opponent in all aspects of the game today. He was simply too good and the decision should be no more than a formality. Over to the ring announcer for the scorecards.

Ladies and gentlemen, after 5 rounds of action, we go to the scorecards for a decision.

Judge Timothy Bukovac scores the fight for Bj Becks!
Judge Frank Antenori scores the fight for Bj Becks!
Judge Jack Bonds scores the fight for Bj Becks!

Bj Becks wins by unanimous decision!
Bj Becks made sure to mention his sponsor, Milwaukee's Best 160 SALE $140 in his post fight interview.